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From Santee to Santree

Volunteer to help plant trees and clean up a local park on March 17.

On March 17, Santee is turning into Santree and you can be a part of it!

is a volunteer opportunity for residents to help make a difference in our community’s aesthetic appeal. Volunteers will be making landscaping improvements in the community park, like planting trees, picking up trash and more.

About 40-50 trees will be planted in the park, according to the city website. Volunteers should bring their own gloves and shovels and be prepared to get down and dirty. Close-toed shoes should be work as you help plant greenery and remove weeds. Water will be provided for the volunteers.

Got kids? Bring them, too! Children will be kept entertained with crafts and music from bluegrass band Box Canyon. Food samples from healthy vendors will be provided to keep the hunger pangs away and to provide sustenance for the hard-working volunteers.

Santree Fest will take place rain or shine, but if the sun’s out remember that sunscreen! Those looking to lend a hand can arrive at on March 17 at 9 a.m. This is event is free for the community. Happy planting!

Mary March 14, 2012 at 05:28 PM
Now Joe! This effort is a year long planning event, with many organizations involved. Most people involved are friendly to the environment and don't mind a little cold and wet to get the job done.
Joe Spencer March 14, 2012 at 07:49 PM
I understand that...but considering the vert poor weather I would think in an effort to have more people involved it would be rescheduled. If I was planning an event for mid-March I would have a contingency plan in place. Though we are fortunate enough to have beautiful weather here...ya never know. My point was that we heard of this bad weather at least a full week in advance if not a few days more. It was plenty of time to shift on the fly. Sure it would take some work...and sure maybe you may lose a vendor or two along the way....maybe you lose the band and are unable to book a new one........but....Id rather have more community involvement than just a few dedicated few. To me that is more important than the "entertainment and food". I am friendly to the enviornment but I for one will not subject my daughter to the elements so that I can partake in the effort and I assume there will be many others who feel that way as well. If you are one who is involved in this...my comments are not meant to be personal in any way.
Motivated Santee Citizen March 14, 2012 at 08:18 PM
Rain coat.
Have it all March 15, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Sounds like a fun event! If it does rain, the kids would love it even more! My little girl loves the mud! Mary, where is the comment you were responding to? I don't see the whole post.
Mary March 15, 2012 at 06:33 PM
I don't know where the comment went, but it went something like this: Leadership skills were lacking because everyone has known for more than a week that it might rain on the PLANNED day. It was written by Joe Spencer
Have it all March 15, 2012 at 07:38 PM
Oh my. Of course you could not have known when the planning started it was going to rain. We will be there in support. Rain or shine. I do not support putting down someone's "leadership skills" though due to a week's notice of change in the weather. Keep up the good work!!
Joe Spencer March 15, 2012 at 08:03 PM
Actually I deleted it because when I re-read it...it didnt come across right. So out of respect I removed it. But that being said...I understand an event gets planned well in advance. I've worked on plenty. But when you plan an outodoor event in the middle of March...just maybe..it might be wise to have a contingency plan. Yes we are in Southern California...and yes we have had some very beautiful weather...BUT now we are due for a cold winter storm....rain and very cold temps where we MIGHT reach 50 as a high on a couple of the days. I commented that we have known about this cold winter storm for at least a week or more. Why not shift gears and postpone for better weather to get MORE people involved and enjoy the day? I know there will be dedicated people who will show rain or shine and thats awesome! Since those people will show up no matter what I would rather focus on capturing the people who wont show in the bad weather. I mean it was already scheduled on a holiday---St. Pattys Day...and now you have horrible weather on top of it. My point is that if someone would have had a backup plan...this would have been easy to shift on the fly. Why wasnt it scheduled in late April anyhow? Still a risk of rain but less likely...AND...that is when Arbor Day actually is---the last Friday of April.
Mary March 15, 2012 at 08:41 PM
Joe, you have already expressed your opinion on the subject. Evidently you don't understand that the rest of us don't think this is a lack of leadership skills. If it rains I won't expect to see you or you daughter at the event.
Joe Spencer March 15, 2012 at 08:51 PM
With all due respect, Mary, does the "rest of us" speak for all of Santee or just the two other people posting here? There are actually others who agree with me. I've had several people tell me I was absolutely right but they havent responded here. See many people dont post on here for a variety of reasons. Some choose not to because they just dont like to argue. Some have to express their opinions carefully because of their positions (city employees, school district employees, police officers, firemen, etc). Most just choose not to post at all because of their positions. But that doesnt mean they dont read the Patch. See the thing I have going for me is that I dont report to anyone. I can say exactly what I want without worrying about it. I am also a very blunt and direct person by nature. I dont ever mean to offend or upset anyone...but I wont mince words either. I can argue a point with someone all day long here...but at the end of the day respect them and go have dinner with them. If it rains you are correct, I will not subject my nine year old daughter to standing out in rain and 50 degree temperatures just so I can plant a tree and so she can come down sick. Now if the weather conditions were different I would absolutely be there and let her help as well.
Doug Curlee March 15, 2012 at 10:27 PM
good god.. and i thought the wrangling over smart meters and smoking was getting more and more juvenile.. this one takes the cake..is it really necessary to pick fights and insult each other over whether or not to PLANT TREES IN THE RAIN???.. everyone involved here is out of line..but if i have to pick a champion out-of-liner.. it's joe..you kinda need to stop telling people what to do and how to do it..if you don t want your daughter out in the rain, then keep her home.. the event was organized for the appointed day, and there's no reason on god's earth it should have to be a last-minute reschedule to accomodate you.. now. let's all remember to be a little more civil..o.k.?? doug
Joe Spencer March 15, 2012 at 10:44 PM
I dont think anyone here was picking a fight or insulting anyone...I sure don't feel like anyone did it to me and I dont feel like I did it to anyone else. In fact quite the opposite when I re-read the original comment I saw how it might have sounded insulting...so I deleted it. Nobody said anything about rescheduling it to accommodate me....I was looking at the greater good of it. You cant possibly tell me that you dont think the event is not going to be drastically affected because of the winter storm coming through. I think the points I made above are extremely valid. Did I tell anyone they had to follow them? Nope. Did I offer my view on a BLOG? Yep. With the exception of one individual on here I can seperate the argument of points on here and day to day life. I'd have lunch with anyone here to discuss views at any given time. I dont get riled up and make it personal or take it personally.
Doug Curlee March 15, 2012 at 11:43 PM
joe.. that's not the way it read.. doug
Joe Spencer March 16, 2012 at 12:26 AM
Well then I apologize to you and anyone who read it the same way you did. I'm not opposed to that. Sometimes its hard to tell the tone or meaning on a blog especially with someone as forward as I am.
Have it all March 16, 2012 at 12:56 AM
I must agree with Doug. Joe, you stated "With all due respect, Mary, does the "rest of us" speak for all of Santee or just the two other people posting here?". How that reads is that the opinion of the people who voiced in support of this have no bearing. You yourself are "one" person voicing opposition and "claimimg" so many others agree with you. Where are they? Why does your opinion regarding this have more bearing than those of us who also voiced an "opinion". In my "opinion" reading your posts, you come off as quite a "bully" who likes to sugar coat things by adding the word "respect" here and there. I have read most of the postings on the patch and (to use Doug's term), you seem to be one of the people doing the most "wrangling" when poeple's opinions don't match up with yours. It seems you try to find things to be the "voice of opposition". Stick with the "smoking ban" because obviously your voice has more support there. You also stated about people who post on here, "Some choose not to because they just dont like to argue". Maybe you too should take that road at times, because how you come across to the reader is different than the writer. I apologize to Doug if my post was argumentative. I cannot sit back and watch someone put down people's leadership and planning skills as well as the opinion of others. Can we now please put focus back on this event?
City of Santee March 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM
Our Special Event Supervisor says we have never had an event rain out in the 25 years she has been here, but maybe our luck has run out! The main focus of Santree Fest is planting trees and as of 4:00 pm Friday, we are still planning on going forth with the event, in a pared down version, since some of our vendors have opted not to take a chance with the weather. We'll end early if we are done with the landscaping projects and if the shubs and trees get planted quickly. (In the event of lightning, the event will be cancelled.) So, dig out those rainboots and winter rain coats that you never wear in San Diego county and have some fun starting at 9 am. It might not hurt to make a wish on your lucky charm for a little sunshine.
Tyler Becker March 17, 2012 at 04:57 AM
Joe, if you would like to rearrange all the components of the event and "shift on the fly," why don't you try and take on the responsibility of doing it yourself since you've "worked on plenty." I'm not sure what your definition of "well in advance" is, but planning since last year and attempting to switch the date three days before the event is impossible with the amount of different parts there are. The City does a fantastic job of putting together all of these FREE events for it's community. It is there for you to take it, or leave it, not to criticize the City's skills in organizing. Not once in the City's Special Events has this ever happened, and for you to make a scene about rain and the date "already scheduled on a holiday --- St. Patty's Day" (which is not a holiday, just a celebration for Americans to drink plenty of beer and pretend they are Irish), is ridiculous. And for anyone on Santee Patch making comments, they don't "report to anyone" either, but they have the self control to not make comments that will cause such unneeded discussion as this one. The City of Santee is the greatest city ever, and I will stand by that no matter what, if you disagree, stop making controversial comments all over it's Patch page.
Joe Spencer March 17, 2012 at 05:16 AM
Santee4Life... Santee IS a great city...absolutely. I simply gave an opinion. We all have them and we can all share them...thats what makes this such a great Country. Do you have to agree with me? Nope. I simply made a few points...that if you are going to schedule an event in mid-march you might have a contingency plan in place. Wonderful that this is the first time weather has factored in. The fact is that it finally did factor in and there was no back up plan. Had there been a backup plan in place you simply could have called an audible a week ago when this storm was projected to hit and pushed it to the back up date. Would you have had some people not available (vendors) to shift to a new date. Maybe. But appearently some vendors have chosen to back out of tomorrows date anyhow so you've lost some regardless. I'm guessing that the band is out for tomorrow and the crafts too. Im sure participation will be down because of the weather too. So what would being prepared and moving it with a weeks notice really cost you? I pointed out Arbor Day (tree planting) is not until the last Friday of April anyhow so why would pushing the date back be a problem. I appreciate the work put in...but I stand by my comments that a contingency plan could have easily been in place. Maybe you never have had to use one in the past...but guess what...could have used it this year.

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