Before and After: Revised Visual Simulations of Quail Brush Power Plant

Video showing accurate representations of changes to the landscape from five vantage points if the power plant is constructed.

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Bill Howell December 06, 2012 at 07:27 PM
With the atrocity committed on the community of Ocotillo, and the raping of east county and El Monte valley for the "Powerlink", we do not need a peaker plant. We must get together and fight this to the last straw, folks.
Jeff December 06, 2012 at 08:08 PM
Quail Brush is a hard slap in the face to our park and community. It does not belong next to Mission Trails. The San Diego City Counsel agreed unanimously against it and the lead commissioner for Quail Brush at the CPUC stated it is not needed. Why does CoGentrix and SDGE fight on and try and shove it down our throats? Can you spell PROFITS?
Santee Homeowner December 06, 2012 at 08:40 PM
We have a multi $Billion dollar dysfunctional trinity that rapes the tax payers and rate payers. CAISO, CPUC and the CEC all point their finger at the other agency while they drain our wallets, the public will have to pay $Millions for nothing because of the State's incompetence managing these reviews. This is what happens when Greed Energy is guaranteed profits, bogus scam proceedings to create billable hours and now we are hearing there isn't enough wind in Ocotillo to generate electricity! Our rooftops sit vacant because public funds are handed over to the Greed Energy Fossil Fuel Corporations (Goldman Sachs, Co Gen Tricks, Carlyle, Pattern, AES, SEMPRA...) in the meantime SEMPRA awaits their next opportunity to tax roof top solar.
Santee Homeowner December 06, 2012 at 08:49 PM
Austin TX, creates a 14c Kwh feed in tarrif that spawns a 600% increase in roof top solar, Germany and Spain lead the way with their feed in tarrifs. Ask yourself this, would you voluntarily financially support: the destruction of Sacred Indian Lands, killing endangered Bighorn Sheep, unregulated pollution caused by the gas plants in Mexico, cancerous particulates dumped on seniors and children, unmitigated loss in property values, destruction of Parks, noise pollution, extortion utility rate hikes and a covert war on community owned rooftop solar. Very few would voluntarily financially support that, so why are we all still connected to the grid when going off the grid is viable? Stop funding them, go off-grid, even if all you can do is one room at a time.
sheeple herder December 06, 2012 at 09:03 PM
This should be a non-issue. The sheep were sold the sunrise power link for dependable power. This was the saviour of the region according to the "powers that be" or were we lied to by the politicians, SDG&E, etc...? Follow the money!
sheeple herder December 06, 2012 at 09:07 PM
Homeowner: Are you doing things you suggest or just like to type about it? How many panels do you have on your house? I have 34. Please elaborate on this "war on rooftop solar?"
Tom Vyse December 07, 2012 at 02:40 PM
Margie Logue December 07, 2012 at 09:30 PM
Please write the CPUC urging them to not allow Quail-Brush. CC to the CEC Eric Solario. Cogentrix hopes we'll all be in the holiday spirit and leave the letter writing to someone else. They would love to slip thru. Why does the CEC have so much power?
Retha Knight December 13, 2012 at 08:02 PM
The Cogentrix lobbyist are probably very busy especially now that they have their “new design” with their two clusters of the ELEVEN 70 foot smokestacks! Well guess what? KNOWLEDGE IS TRULY POWER! The END to agency and public comments to the CEC is quickly approaching! Write a short letter of opposition if you truly care about the Health and quality of life of of our children and your community. Go to: SaveMissionTrails.org
Retha Knight December 13, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Is this what you want you envision at the gateway of Santee? Welcome home!
Harry Lanahan December 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM
I fail to see the problem of having a, clean burning natural gas fired power plant located on unusable land that does not belong to you.
Doug Curlee December 17, 2012 at 12:21 AM
harry..neither do i, but the naysayers here have drummed up support on the grounds that it's a danger to the local high school, and that it will forever ruin mission trails regional park..they've convinced themselves that clean burning natural gas is a health hazard comparable to the black plague.. none of that is true, but the hysteria is there, and they're feeding on it.. personally, i'm hoping the california energy commission comes in and say "build that thing NOW..before we have a massive power shortage like we did last year, and have no way to keep the lights on!!!" of course, there'll be lawsuit after lawsuit..but let's at least get it moving..
Sandy December 17, 2012 at 01:46 AM
The CA Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) has made a draft ruling rejecting SDG&E's application for this fossil fuel plant. The hearing is Thursday, Dec. 20. Santee citizens opposed to the plant are requested to send an email today supporting the CPUC's draft decision. Instructions at savemissiontrails.org The CPUC's draft ruling confirms what many of you suspected: Energy efficiency is working. Southern California peak energy demand is static, contrary to claims by SDG&E and Cogentrix, which together seek to build a redundant plant for their own financial gain. The full text with megawattage specifics is available here at http://docs.cpuc.ca.gov/PublishedDocs/Efile/G000/M031/K723/31723058.PDF
Santee Homeowner December 17, 2012 at 04:46 PM
I can't believe in today's world with the wealth of information at our fingertips people still are under the influence of fossil fuel industry PR. "Natural Gas is Clean". Remember who these folks are, Zeibart lobbied in Washington DC on legislation that eliminated *all EPA regulations governing fossil fuel NG power plants*, SDG&E has filed suits at the CPUC to tax schools and hospitals that have solar panels installed, SDG&E has filed suit at the CPUC to make rate payers pay for fires they caused, the entire fosil fuel gang gets **Guaranteed profits* for anything they can get approved and built even if it NOT used.
Santee Homeowner December 17, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Having observed this situation for a while, I have learned there are people that are deficient in some areas of their being, they are, stunted, brainwashed or just maybe to lazy to become educated, I don't know. A few common characteristics is their inability to see the entire situation, they say "natural gas is clean and cheap", yet they overlook, loss in property values, extortionist utility rate hikes, the massive tracts of our public lands destroyed in the extraction process, particulates kill, pollution caused by the extraction process, Gov't corruption. For people not having the ablility to see this, I conclude there are some that are simply stunted, incomplete humans. For those that say "natural gas is clean", I ask you this, "why aren't you sucking the exhaust pipe of a NG vehicle"? Why not, you say it's clean.
Santee Homeowner December 18, 2012 at 04:44 AM
this is who we are dealing with, Utilities go After Rooftop Solar http://www.kcet.org/news/rewire/utilities/california-utilities-take-aim-at-rooftop-solar.html
SB December 19, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Wow, talk about hysteria: “build that thing NOW..before we have a massive power shortage...." This incorrect scenario is a scare tactic that blatantly misinforms the public. This plant is not the answer to blackouts. Lets stick with the facts. The massive Sept. 2011 blackout had NOTHING to do with insufficient power. It was HUMAN ERROR was caused by an AZ utility worker and flawed procedures which resulted in grid shutdown. Read the FERC Report: www.ferc.gov/legal/staff-reports/04-27-2012-ferc-nerc-report.pdf Here’s a news article, stating “inadequate planning”: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/01/2011-blackout-in-san-diego_n_1468552.html Based on a Google search not one blackout in the San Diego area in 2012 as reported in the news was due insufficient power. I'll give specific examples in a separate post. Building new power plants will NEVER solve power outages. There are many other causes, mostly due to power distribution problems and not insufficient power. Before blindly building more plants based on some ill-perceived need for more power, how about fixing our aging infrastructure? Spend money on system maintenance and upgrades, protective measures, improving efficiency, employee training, policies, and procedures? Obviously that’s where the money is really needed. Building a new power plant is akin to putting a brand new engine in a car that has a broken transmission and four flat tires: whats the point?
SB December 19, 2012 at 09:15 PM
Specific examples of power outages in 2012 NOT related to insufficient power, per my reply to Doug: 8/10/12: 4000 people in Old Town, Mission Hills, Hillcrest, Univ. Hts, North Park and Normal Hts. SDGE said it was an overhead electric system problem and not related to the heat or any grid issues. 8/16/12: Two blackouts: 1,000 customers in Rancho Penasquitos Cause: construction. 1,000 customers in OB, Midway, Mission Hills, Hillcrest, Old Town and airport areas. Cause: a bird flew into a power line. 8/29/12: 3,000 customers in central SD. Cause: problem in the “overhead electrical system”. 9/10/12: Five blackouts: Dozens of customers in La Mesa. Cause: underground cable full of mud and burnt cable in a duct. Four outages in Escondido, the largest of which affected 6,500 customers. Cause: thunderstorms. 9/14/12: Four blackouts. SDG&E said all were caused by problems in the underground and overhead electrical systems: 3,300 customers in Carlsbad 1,100 customers in Rolando and East College Areas 600 residents in Penasquitos and RB 400 people in Poway 9/21/12: 2,100 customers in downtown El Cajon. Cause: transformer fire. 9/26/12: 1775 customers in Coronado Cays, two military bases and near the Tijuana Estuary. Cause: “suspected problem in the overhead electrical system”. 11/29/12: 6000 residents in Carlsbad. Cause: car crashed into a green transformer box.
Mike Walker December 19, 2012 at 11:22 PM
The smart thing to do is go off-grid, totally viable with today's technology. To SB you assume most of the population understands the relationship between an engine and transmission, good luck with that.
SB December 20, 2012 at 06:07 AM
Mike, Point taken, what was I thinking?? To add to your comment, not only is off-the-grid totally viable, solar power storage technology exists now: http://www.kpbs.org/news/2012/nov/27/san-diego-zoos-solar-powered-parking-lot-opens/ Some quotes from the article: Jim Avery of SDG&E said the zoo’s array of solar panels can produce 90 kilowatts, enough to power 18 homes. “Now what really makes it unique is what we’ve added on top of that,” he said. “That’s battery storage as well.” John Holmes, a technology adviser for SDG&E, said the batteries are state of the art..... Storage of solar energy is a huge issue because the sun doesn’t always shine. The 100-kilowatt storage system at the zoo means when the sun goes down, its power can still be used to charge cars or power someone’s house by feeding the grid. Kinda blows a hole in the proponent's argument that the plant is needed for when the sun doesnt shine or the wind doesnt blow.


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