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Feel Free To Smoke In Santee Parks... But Get Your Fortune Told Elsewhere

Despite anti-smoking laws becoming more prevalent across the nation, Santee remains the only city in San Diego County to allow smoking at public parks.

In a  published on Santee Patch in April 2011, addressed why there were in Santee and why the  was a positive in his eyes. In that Letter to the Editor the Mayor Voepel wrote:

"I see this grade of "F" from our perspective as being the highest grade for "FREEDOM" we could earn. In Santee we believe in life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Our City Council thinks long and hard before we restrict or take away one's freedom"

With , I decided to take a look into the Santee Municipal Code.  What I found was a bit surprising.  I've posted a few of the codes from Health and Safety as well as  as well as City Parks followed by comments from me which are in bold.

Title 8 HEALTH AND SAFETY

Chapter 8.12 NOISE ABATEMENT AND CONTROL

8.12.010 Purpose and intent.

The city council finds and declares that:

A.  Inadequately controlled noise presents a growing danger to the health and welfare of the residents of the city;

Can someone PLEASE explain to me how noise presents more of a danger to the health and welfare of people than second hand smoke does?  The American Lung Association, American Heart Association, and the  among others strongly disagree. 

D.  Every person is entitled to an environment in which the noise is not detrimental to his or her life, health, and enjoyment of property;

While the believes each person is entitled to an environment in which the noise is not detrimental to his or her life, health and enjoyment of property... they do not believe each person is entitled to an environment which second hand smoke is not detrimental to his or her life, health, and enjoyment of property.  

8.12.050 General noise regulations

A.  General Prohibitions. In the absence of objective measurement by use of a sound level meter, additionally it is unlawful for any person to make, continue, or cause to be made or continued, within the limits of the city, any disturbing, excessive or offensive noise which causes discomfort or annoyance to reasonable persons of normal sensitivity residing in the area.

The City Council prevents any disturbing, excessive or offensive NOISE which causes discomfort or annoyance to reasonable persons of normal sensitivity yet does not prevent any disturbing, excessive or offensive ODOR which causes discomfort or annoyance to a reasonable person of normal sensitivity. 

Title 12 STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND PUBLIC PROPERTY

Chapter 12.28 CITY PARKS

12.28.180 Disturbing the peace

No person shall disturb the peace and quiet of a city park by any loud or unusual noise, or by the sounding of automobile horns or noise making devices, or by the use of profane, obscene or abusive language or gestures.

While a person is banned from disturbing the peace and quiet enjoyment of a city park by loud noises, profane language or even hand gestures, the City Council does not feel it necessary to ban a person from disturbing the enjoyment of the same park by smoking.

12.28.060 Children

No person shall permit any child under the age of seven years to play in any playground area, or fish, swim or play in or near any lake, pool or drainage ditch, except in areas which are fenced and set aside for infants, unless such child is attended by an adult

According to this a child as young as seven years old can be at a public park unattended within a fenced area playing while an adult stands nearby smoking and the City Council does not see this as a detriment to this child's life, health, or enjoyment of the property.

12.28.130 Gambling and fortunetelling

No person shall engage in fortunetelling, palm reading, character analysis, phrenological exhibitions or demonstrations, or any other like display, demonstration or exhibit in a city park for a charge, fee or donation of money, or any other valuable consideration.

I am baffled as to how the city council does not feel that there should be a ban on smoking in public parks, yet at some point they felt fortunetelling was such a problem in public parks that it was necessary to make a law banning it.

The health risks from indirect, secondhand smoke are clear. The following information was gathered from the American Heart Association's website:

  • A 2006 report of the U.S. Surgeon General states that: "There is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke. Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase their risk of developing heart disease by 25 to 30 percent and lung cancer by 20 to 30 percent. The finding is of major public health concern due to the fact that nearly half of all nonsmoking Americans are still regularly exposed to secondhand smoke"
  • Short exposures to secondhand smoke can cause blood platelets to become stickier, damage the lining of blood vessels, and decrease coronary flow velocity reserves; all mechanisms that may increase the risk of a heart attack.

The American Heart Association maintains that smoke-free laws should be comprehensive and should apply to all workplaces and public environments, that there should be no preemption of local ordinances, and no exemptions for hardship, opting out, or ventilation. 

Mayor Voepel, the F does not represent FREEDOM... it represents the FUTURE... which is what you and the rest of City Council need to protect by banning smoking at all public parks in Santee.

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Doug Curlee May 23, 2013 at 12:18 pm
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Mayor Randy Voepel May 23, 2013 at 11:59 am
That section is Cal-Trans and they run that intersection. Also the area next to the intersectionRead More where a runaway feature could be installed, belongs to the City of San Diego not Santee. Santee has asked for various mitigations and Cal-Trans has only responded with more "rumble strips". Very frustrating to everybody in Santee Sluggo including this Mayor.
Fotis Tsimboukakis May 21, 2013 at 03:56 pm
I think the communities, Santee here, should band together and raise that money for schoolRead More supplies,instead of the teachers. I for one would throw in the first $100. I think between the residents and the local businesses we could raise the $10,000 to $15,000 that I am guessing would be needed. In Scripps Ranch, where both my kids attended school, the parents banded together and covered a HALF A MILLION shortfall in no time about 9 years ago during the cuts. And you don't have to have kids in school now to contribute. I don't anymore,BUT GOOD PUBLIC education with the right tools BENEFITS ALL AND THE FUTURE OF AMERICA MOST OF ALL. So I am first.
Steven Bartholow (Editor) May 16, 2013 at 03:53 pm
Thanks for posting this. I also added this to our events list. In the future I suggest posting anRead More announcement and event for maximum exposure- http://santee.patch.com/posts/event/new Good luck with the fundraiser!
RainWaterSystems May 17, 2013 at 10:58 am
That's awesome! We wish you success and recovery. We suggest two books; A Purpose Driven Life byRead More Rick Warren and Think and Grow Rich by Napolean Hill. I hope to be in a position to hire a salesman this fall.
Steven Bartholow (Editor) May 16, 2013 at 10:34 am
Anyone else recommend a Santee family owned business that's outside the city?
Steven Bartholow (Editor) May 20, 2013 at 02:31 pm
Search for "Quail Brush" in the search bar in the top right corner.Read More http://santee.patch.com/search?keywords=Quail+Brush
Retha Knight May 17, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Where do you type what you want to view, like "Quail Brush"?
Steven Bartholow (Editor) May 17, 2013 at 10:01 am
No drop down menus, just click the header links for more options. For story categories click newsRead More and look on the left hand column. I know the redesign will take a bit to get used to, but I really think it will be a better site for community engagement, and easier to use. Feel free to post your feedback to the redesign on the boards, I'll check it out and respond, but you might also send your feedback straight to Patch headquarters with this form- http://feedback.aol.com/rs/rs.php?sid=patch Engineers will be furiously tweeking the new site based on your suggestions.
Mike Walker April 23, 2013 at 01:20 pm
this is why the battlefield has changed temporarily from the political arena to the Energy Arena.Read More Co Gen Tricks and the usual suspects are making their big money bet on two inevitable facts that will force the hand of the CPUC and CEC to place a new gas power plant somewhere in the area. 1) the Electric Vehicle Mandate. 2) voltage support (power factor) needed by the industrial wind and solar farms in the desert. There is more to what meets the eye with the aggressive push by the usual suspects to cover our open spaces in the East County with these poorly sited RE projects. More wind and solar farms means more gas power plants. There is only one way to fight the destruction of our open spaces, and that is with roof top solar, conservation, energy efficiency and community owned energy districts. The fisrt thing that needs to be done is the City of Santee exempt residential scale PV installs from needing a building permit. Australia, Germany and the State of Vermont do not require a Building Permit to install PV.
Retha Knight April 23, 2013 at 03:48 am
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just my opinion April 22, 2013 at 01:04 am
Stephen, well said!!!!!