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Friday Night Stabbing Near Mast Park Still Being Investigated

An altercation near Mast Park leads to injuries and suspects on the run.

Two young males were stabbed after a reported disturbance near on Friday night, Lieutenant Jim Duffy said.

The victims, in their 20s, did not realize they had been injured until after an with the suspects, identified only as three men, also in their 20s, Lt. Jim Duffy said.

Authorities were called to the scene area around 7:30 p.m., after the victims realized they had been wounded.

At last report, the suspects had fled into the park and deputies were continuing to investigate the incident, Duffy said.

City paramedics and firefighters responded to treat the victims at Stoyer Road and Carlton Hills Boulevard, said Richard Mattock, Santee Deputy .

He described the as being in their late teens or early 20s. Both had been beaten, one was stabbed multiple times, the other, twice, Mattock said.

They were transported separately to Sharp Memorial Hospital in San Diego in stable condition.

Bob V. March 28, 2011 at 01:34 PM
When we here stories like this some people tend to gravitate to the thinking that this was a crime imported from out of town or from some group looking for trouble in our great city,but what we know now is that this crime was committed by individuals that live here in Santee,these were Adult crimes that were committed and they should be punished as such.The notion that bad manners leads to crimes is a Huge stretch for any one to make,it takes more than just that for someone to commit a crime.
thedefchef March 28, 2011 at 05:16 PM
What happen to the good old days... Where boys would just fight. No knifes just a good old brawl. These kids need to know if they are going to use a knife in a fight they can go to jail forever! The whole gang thing in relation to this story i think is being glorified. Just cause a group of kids are hanging out doesn't mean they are a gang.
Kathy March 28, 2011 at 05:41 PM
The fact that knives were involved is a strong indication that it might of been Gang related. After all, how often do you find a group of kids, that are not Gang related, having knives on their position? I do not endorse any type of violence, whether they use weapons or fist ( for the Good Old Brawl). We need to bring up our children to care about fellow man, not to hurt fellow man.
bme March 28, 2011 at 06:03 PM
At least Steven from the Santee Patch here is TRYING to find out factual information and responding to us on this incident. I emailed Channel 10 news station and have yet to receive a response. I know that the Sheriffs and Mayor, etc., may have their reasons for wanting to keep things like this "hush hush", but as a concerned parent, we have the right to know what is going on in our community. And if one of my children was a victim, I would want others knowing who had done this and if there were others that needed to be found!
bme March 28, 2011 at 06:41 PM
I would also like to encourage people to not be so quick to judge and blame the parents. You were once a teenager. Did you always do the right thing? Did you ever lie to your parent and tell them you were going to be at one place & go somewhere else? I did... and I was a "good" kid. Please understand, I am in no way condoning what these kids did (stabbing others); I am simply saying that until we know all of the facts... unless we know that the parents were actively teaching their kids to be violent, etc., we shouldn't be so quick to judge/condemn the parent. These children/teens need to learn to be accountable for their OWN actions, not be bailed out by placing the blame on their parents. They made the choice to wield a knife. They made the choice to use it. They alone should be held accountable for their actions.
Tina Hunt-Nunez March 28, 2011 at 06:42 PM
The gang word is from them. They called themselves a gang.
Tina Hunt-Nunez March 28, 2011 at 06:46 PM
Regarding the parents....you were not there to witness the parent's actions. What they were saying & so on.
bme March 28, 2011 at 06:54 PM
You are right; I was not there, which is why I said I would like to know more facts about the situation before making a judgment. I was mainly responding to Kathy's post above where she wrote: " I think you are just seeing where there are parents who are incapable of supervising or rising their children properly. Like I said, it is time to start holding the parents of these suspects, just as responsible, time in prison for both, would set a very good example of what will happen if you are not a responsible parent." I understand what she is saying; however, I think that we need to be careful with such blanket statements. "Raising children properly" is a very vague and broad statement and you can't create laws on such. Prison time for a parent for "not raising children properly" would be a very slippery slope indeed. Unless the parent has actively participated or contributed to the crime, they should not be held accountable for their teenager's choices. That's the point I was trying to make.
Tina Hunt-Nunez March 28, 2011 at 07:09 PM
I agree completely
Kathy March 28, 2011 at 08:27 PM
heelstomper stated this is not the first time the suspects has had problems with the law. Therefore, YES, I hold the parents responsible. If your child has had trouble with the law then you need to address it with your child and ensure the child has consequences for their actions, which should be assigned by the law and parents. A parent is responsible for knowing where, with whom their with and what they are doing, until the age of 18 years. It is possible, I have 3 grown kids, and I always knew. Do kids lie, well not if the consequences are severe enough. I always told my kids that if they lied to me, then the punishment would be much more severe, then the negative action they committed. Frankly, it seems parents are afraid of physically disciplining their children, in fear of being reported for child abuse. I am hoping that Steven will allow us to have a separate Article on " if Parents should be held responsible for their children actions ". I do appreciate how quickly Santee Patch alerts us of crime in Santee, otherwise, we may not even hear about it. I can rely on Santee Patch more then any other media source, they always show both sides of the story.
Tina Hunt-Nunez March 28, 2011 at 08:41 PM
I would agree with your statements as well
dontworry March 28, 2011 at 10:12 PM
these kids have been in trouble with the law before plently of times. their parents did set consequences for them, from shutting off their phone to kicking them out of the house. what ever the parents did the kids wouldn't listen. you can't blame it on the parents if you don't know the lifestyle they went through. When a group of kids get together, they feel as though they can do anything, and most of the time, you can't control them. Don't judge these kids until you fully understand. Kids make decisions without thinking, and they are now paying for the consequences. leave it at that.
marie March 28, 2011 at 10:17 PM
the kids that got stabbed our doing fine.one had to have a two hour surgery.and the other was released the same night.i hope they do catch all partys involved.and they get what they derseve which is jail time.
dontworry March 28, 2011 at 10:27 PM
so no one died?
Kathy March 28, 2011 at 11:14 PM
dontworry, are you SERIOUS???? Yes, I do blame these suspects! You are being an enabler by making excuses for them. So, the next time these 3 suspects, decide to cause harm, possibly shoot their victims, are you not going to blame them, at that time, as well? I absolutely BLAME the PARENTS in this case, considering, according to you "these kids have been in trouble with the law plenty of times". If the parents were incapable of controlling, supervising and raising their kids, then place them in a foster home. Trust me, a foster home is a whole lot better then spending a life sentence in prison and their victim(s), 6 feet under. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE EXCUSES FOR THIS TYPE OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.
Steven Bartholow (Editor) March 28, 2011 at 11:21 PM
This story has been updated here with much more info: http://patch.com/A-glXH
Kathy March 29, 2011 at 12:28 AM
As I had stated on the other board, I was sure it was gang related, as it usually is when it involves teens, knives and guns. I say it is time to clear these little punks out of our community and if the family is an enabler, they can leave too. I just love it when the media is not allowed to release the names of the suspects if they are minors. If they commit these hanus acts of crimes, then they deserve absolutely zero protection. One of the suspects that was arrested, Christopher Acevez, lives in Santee with his parents, close to the crime scene. SEE THE UPDATE LINK ABOVE
Kathy March 29, 2011 at 04:39 AM
Mel, would care to explain what you are even talking about? The facts that I used were from the Santee Patch, Santee Sheriffs Department and Neighbor of the suspect. However, if you have a more reliable source to challenge what has been mentioned, please by all means, share with us. Perhaps if you had children or if it was your child that was stabbed, you might think differently. Could you please be more specific in the future with your accusations? However, thank you for your opinion, we always value it.
Tina Hunt-Nunez March 29, 2011 at 05:08 AM
Thank you Steven for allowing us to voice our opinions & concerns.
fairandjust April 02, 2011 at 09:28 PM
I've been living in this complex several years now. what I know about this family is that the oldest graduated from high school and is signed up for the marines and waiting to be shipped off to boot camp. the youngest boy has been of concern and has been in trouble once with the law when he was 14 and has since not had any run ins with the law. Several weeks ago, the mother had stated she was sad because there was talk that the father was sending his younger son to military school. his father has kicked out many friends, including one of the victims, when he notices they have alcohol. the only thing I know about the victim is that he has known this family a long time. In fact, they considered the victim and his brother like family. They even helped the victim's family move in to this complex. I too am a single mother and want safety in our community, but if you don't know this family nor the facts don't judge. what i know is that there was a rumble caused by arguments on BOTH SIDES which caused both sides to call more friends for back up. unfortunately, 2 were stabbed. I sympathies with the victims and their parents, but there's more to this then we are being told. like my grandmother, God rest her soul, use to say. My death bed doesn't excuse my wrong doings.
SanteeCrimeFree April 04, 2011 at 01:54 AM
I was there and the mother said "Boys will be boys" And the manager instructed everybody not to talk about the matter and not to worrie the stabbing wasn't drug related. The manager and mother are good friends, nothing will happen to the family..So don't let your kids out after dark.
Grace April 04, 2011 at 03:12 AM
Totally Ammazed!! It appears that many boys were involved in this incident, yet many are becoming judges and have already made a verdict of guilty concerning a few boys. Who ever judges will be judged by God. I am totally amazed at the amount of gossip and slander that is going on instead of prayer and concern. Who are we, mere humans, to judge a family who is going through such a trial. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and that is totally up to the court and jury. Pleace have mercy in regards to others. Mercy is given to those who have mercy. God is listening!
SanteeCrimeFree April 04, 2011 at 03:21 AM
Well telling people they are becoming judges is also judgeing isn't it? I'm guessing it wasn't one of your kids that was stabbed.
crimestopper April 04, 2011 at 03:59 AM
comon crime....Im upset too, but grace is just trying to show some direction to all this anger....
Kathy April 04, 2011 at 04:38 AM
Grace, bless your little heart and it is very kind of you. However, I think the parents of the victims just might disagree with you, as well as myself. I have said prayers for the victims. I have also said prayers for the suspects that the law will place them where they belong and will be safe from injury others or themselves. I believe someone had posted that one of the suspects was waiting to go into the Marines, I am pretty sure that if it was one of the suspects, they have pretty much eliminated their chances. One of the problems is that no information has been released by law enforcement as to what exactly happened but there is a reason for that. The fact still remains that the residents claim this family has caused many problems in the complex and this is not a isolated incident.
SanteeCrimeFree April 04, 2011 at 05:55 AM
All I'm saying people is this family has broken more if not all rules set by this manager. I have witnessed other family's kicked out for much much less. I don't want anybody to be homeless but on the other hand I don't want my child to be stabbed or worse because the manager is friends with known trouble makers.
crimestopper April 04, 2011 at 06:07 AM
Hi Kathy, from what I am reading you said you don't reside at those apartments either. So, I guess you and I can come to a conclusion that there is a very strong division between residents that don't like this family and residents that are defending this family. Man, I am confused. Who do you believe. As I mentioned on the other blog, I searched for records on this family and could not find any of the accusations other then one which was dismissed on one of the boys. Marines, wow...If this kid is innocent and winds up going to the marines, then shipped to a war. I would feel stupid watching his so-called gangster family, with joints in their mouths hugging this American Uniformed Marine. But of course, If he IS guilty, then yeah. His military career just went down the drain. No question. But still, Kathy. Am I alone, according to what I am reading. These residents that are claiming this family, Americas worst family, I feel....Don't get me wrong, my sympathies to the victims and their families. But I feel that this is a personal vendetta and are using this incident, before it's proven mind you, as an excuse to over expose them, don't you think. One thing is wanting to clean your town, another is taking advantage of an unfortunate circumstance to ridicule this family. Now, if what they are saying it's true, then the only families that would defend them would share in the same crimes. They must also smoke, gang bang and so on...don't you think....My prayers go out to ALL of you
Kathy April 04, 2011 at 02:39 PM
crimestopper, I will agree with your statement, that is why I am personally doing nothing, only making some suggestions. My suggestions are to hopefully avoid, the angry residents from taking matters into their own hands and it leading to additional physical harm. We need to let the law enforcement deal with the suspects and victims, as THERE is 2 sides to this story. There has been a lot of assumptions on both boards, including myself, and that does need to stop.
Tina Hunt-Nunez April 04, 2011 at 03:11 PM
It's been awhile since my last comment regarding this, but the last few comments have raised a few more questions I would like to address. But first of all, I would like to say that my thought & prayers go out to both the family's of the victims & those accused. I never wish to be placed in your situation. This issue has gone several directions now that time has passed, my new concern is in regards to this "manager." I was there that evening, I do not live in the complex but have several friends who do. I too was told not to speak about this. It sounds like this manager is friends with the accused family, they obviously hold strong opinions for both the accused & victims. Where is the manager of this complex? Has he/she been involved as well? If what was said is true, that people have been kicked out of this complex for a lot less, what makes this family so special? If we do not know what we're talking about, then set the record straight? Tell us what happened, give us the facts! I'm still so unclear why the secrecy? Why the hush hush? There must be A LOT more....A LOT more than we are being told, wait....nothing is being told! People have asked us to keep our comments to ourselves since we don't know the facts, the truth....well what are we suppose to do? HOW ARE WE SUPPOSE TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OUR COMMUNITY SAFE....when were aren't given the facts? It's so frustrating!!
Tina Hunt-Nunez April 04, 2011 at 03:14 PM
I apologize....I meant to ask, "where is the OWNER of this complex?"

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