Lakeside Motorcyclist Slides Under Transit Bus

The 27-year-old man was taken by air ambulance to Sharp Memorial Hospital.

A 27-year-old motorcyclist was severely injured Sunday when he failed to negotiate a turn, and slid underneath a transit bus stopped on the opposite side of the road.

The victim was identified as Julian Kratt, 27.

Kratt was riding his 2009 custom motorcycle northbound on Winter Gardens Boulevard at 3:50 p.m., when, according to witnesses, he failed to negotiate a left-hand turn in the roadway traveling about 70 mph, said Brian Pennings, a California Highway Patrol public information officer at the El Cajon office.   

"He laid the motorcycle down into the southbound lane and he was ejected and came to rest underneath a transit bus that was stopped on the west shoulder of the southbound lane," Pennings said. "He was wedged underneath the transit bus until an emergency crew could extricate him."

Pennings said Kratt was not wearing a Department of Transporation approved helmet and sustained major injuries and trauma.

He was taken by air ambulance to Sharp Memorial Hospital.

Pennings said there was no initial evidence that drugs or alcohol was involved in the accident.

The cause of the collision remains under investigation by the CHP.

-City News Service

Laura Feil August 21, 2012 at 06:26 AM
Thanks Paul!!!
Laura Feil August 21, 2012 at 06:29 AM
Yvonne that was really beautiful!
Laura Feil August 21, 2012 at 07:13 AM
Kristin - Doug is jus trying to cover his tracks now that he knows he has been caught. Just now realizing that people who really care about Julian know you and can read what you wrote? You said, "I PROBABLY shouldn"t have said all that you did? Is that because it is now in writing and outloud? or becasue believeing that anyone (man or beast) deserves or asked for something as horrific as this? Oh Ya that's right - when you didn't know the Mother of this Son or the Father of this Son ----yOU OFFERED NOOOOOOOOOOO Prayers - BUT now that YOU know someone related - "I hope to god he recovers (pretty dramatic even for you Doug) "pray for him...I will" So??? only the Sons of people you don"t know, ask for it? Doug? Ps YOU want to question the wisdom of 70 on winter gardens? I don't think you are qualified to question the Wisdom of anything. Wisdom is applied knowledge - you believe in prayer and hope to God? Start applying what you have learned! I am grateful that God is nothing like you - if you were left to judge the World - you would be the only one standing - NO DOUBT!!!!
Laura Feil August 21, 2012 at 07:32 AM
He was the ONLY one hurt. There is a reason it is called an ACCIDENT! It means that it was NOT intentional. It is between Jullian and his family. The fact that he is so very badly hurt? Enough for everyone? You want to debate with Doug some more about this? He is paying the price right now! I swear too many people watching Jerry Springer - it is not up to us to judge. You weren't there and most importantly -- YOU ARE NOT *****Julian******Unless you are ready to take his place or donate an organ if needed etc*************Keep your lame debate to yourself. Julian is a REAL person and he is REALLY hurt >>>>>>If you want to "question the responsibility of others or question "the Wisdom of going (ALLEGEDLY) 70 on Wintergardens" (thanks for that inspiration Doug) PLEASE do it somewhere else - this is not O'Riley Factor - If you knew Julian you would feel the same way (but then again not everyone can truly love their Neighbor if they don't know them now can they Doug?
Laura Feil August 21, 2012 at 07:36 AM
If it were your Brother, Father, Son, Friend - I would do the same for you
Laura Feil August 21, 2012 at 07:50 AM
If it was your Brother< Father>Son>Friend . ................. I would do the same for you
Laura Feil August 21, 2012 at 07:55 AM
DOUG _______taken from the quote above ________________READY? "sorry he's hurt, but...... "he kinda asked for it, don't you think?
Doug Curlee August 21, 2012 at 02:59 PM
i would have said what i said differently.. but it still would have said it..i would still question 70 on winter gardens..especially on a bike i now find out he had just gotten and really didn't know how to ride yet.. again. i hope he makes it..and walks out of the hospital.. my initial question remains unchanged.. doug
DAGO BOB August 21, 2012 at 09:36 PM
No one really knows exactly how fast he was going on winter gardens because he wasnt clocked. Julian's speed is assumption by spectators accross the street. He is an exprienced rider and he didnt have that bike fir years either. He got the bike a week ago so he had no fucking reason to speed and go as fast as people said he was going. He knew what he was doing so for if you're not to sure what happened contact the people he was with 5 minutes prior to the accident. A prayer is a powerful thing and can be answered in the strangest ways. Quit assuming what happened and say something nice like a prayer fucking cowards DAGO BOB!
Neil Thedorff August 22, 2012 at 04:24 PM
About Doug "Doug Curlee is a veteran of 42 years in the battlefield of television journalism, 33 of those years here in San Diego County. He's a Vietnam vet, and a longtime resident of the East County area. He has lived in Santee since 1996. After 42 years of being totally objective in news coverage, Doug has a few opinions stacked up. He'll be sharing them with you- hoping to entertain you, but most of all to provoke discussion." -Santee Patch Hey Doug, go F yourself. You use your pathetic podium to "provoke discussion" with speculative information in an on-going investigation. How bout you take your 16 years of Santee living and your 42 years of "objective" news coverage over to the ER and add to your "stacked up" opinions by disrespecting victims and their friends and families right when they get there. Keep up your offensive dribble so maybe more people will see you for your self righteousness. Its "reporters" like you that add to an already failed media system. I can only hope your "friends" that know Julian take you off the xmas list. Julian is my friend. I consider him a brother. I wish someone reading this can create an app for me to track every little pathetic article you write or comment on so I can be a thorn in your butt for the rest of your career. I would be cussing right now but I dont want this removed. If it is then I know you have buddies at the Patch that are just as inconsiderate and pathetic.
sheeple herder August 22, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Maybe the editor should do his job and close the comments since this is turning into a heated pissing match that no one will win?
Neil Thedorff August 22, 2012 at 04:37 PM
"My "assumption" is based on the fact he was doing 70MPH on a road I know does not have a 70MPH speed limit. Experience would have taught him there is a time and a place for everything. Guess no one is responsible for their actions anymore...?" -Fact?!! Did you go down there and measure the skid mark which led to the steel of the bike sliding down the road? Did you take into consideration the material and forces involved that would cause the bike to slide a certain distance when applied to the length of the skid mark? Did you take a sample of the tire rubber to apply that to the amount of rubber left on the pavement and connect that info to the brake adjustment of the bike? No, all you did was make an assumption based on a presumed speed given to you by an officer part of an on-going investigation that you are not privy to. Your first post was acceptable given the info at hand. Your second was constructive if not helpful but when you felt "attacked" you reverted to the same attitude that pathetic excuse for a reporter, "Curlee", has about this. He is responsible for a broken femur, reconstructive facial surgery, multiple other fractures, medically induced coma with a tube in his skull to relieve pressure on his brain, a 3" hole in his side, and a really screwed up weekend. How much more responsibility does one need to take? Not to mention his brand new custom bike?
Kristin S August 22, 2012 at 04:45 PM
Sheeple is obviously a cop.
Kristin S August 22, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Definition of "Sheeple": A term used by arrogant twats to elicit an angered response from those they are referring to. It makes them feel superior to be one of the few truly "in the know". It suggests that the peope being referred somehow have less education o a particular subject, follow only mainstream media, and are gullible. This of course is often a completely unsubstantiated claim.
sheeple herder August 22, 2012 at 04:52 PM
I'm not here for your validation, but thank you for finding my first post "acceptable". I wanted to know how long It would take till I achieved your "validation". I'm sure with your physics degree, you did all of the items you outlined yourself and are forwarding your finding to the CHP? If you are so "privy" to the info, please enlighten us, oh wise one. Where did you get your physics degree from again? As for feeling attacked, ha! I do not, nor will ever back down frown what I say or post, like Mr. Curlee did. Do you think this is the first time the police have done an accident investigation involving a motorcycle? I think they may have some, albeit small clue as to what they are doing. I do not kowtow to you or anyone.
Neil Thedorff August 22, 2012 at 04:57 PM
"Why? Because I don't fawn all over people's miss fortune, mistakes, etc? Calling people names obviously shows your intellectual superiority. I'm sure you feel all tough now." You dont need to fawn over anything but you didnt need to get on here and bring negativity to a very scary situation. You spoke your mind and when opposition mounted against your comments you got decided to defend your position based on speculation. So you pretty much have nothing left here other then your first 2 comments that could be construed as constructive criticism and the rest as poor judgement based on FACTLESS findings. Keep your negativity to yourself. As far as intellectual superiority, how does it feel to say something like that when it is obvious your intellect has no clue of how fast he was going? Like was said before, the witness says he BELIEVES Julian was going 50 - 55. I dont need to call you names, your doing it yourself but I am happy someone did since Julian's misfortunes dont effect you. I hope you never have to deal with a situation like this with a friend or family and if you have already this makes you look even worse. If you have nothing positive to add then go away.
sheeple herder August 22, 2012 at 04:59 PM
You a comedian too? How have I called you names? Obviously you are intulectually superior to everyone here since you choose to call people names. Whatever... When all else fails, call people names and try to belittle them into your point of view!
sheeple herder August 22, 2012 at 05:04 PM
So Neil, where was your degree? How is your supplemental accident investigation going? I'm sure the CHP is waiting... If I go to Wintergardens, will you be out there doing your calculations too?
Neil Thedorff August 22, 2012 at 05:06 PM
"Bong Sativa 7:21 pm on Saturday, May 19, 2012 How old are you ? Your communication skills are surprisingly lacking for someone who professes to be a professional broadcaster ! Any moron can read what someone else wrote for them on a teleprompter,but that don't make you a journalist. Judging by your picture one would guess you've spent too many hours in direct sunlight & it's effected your cognition. This is no doubt due to the fact that your co-workers detested having to work in the studio with you. Your bias is greater than your ego & you certainly have all the characteristics of the divinely delusional. Your cluelessness is only exceeded by your specious & irrational reasoning. Perhaps your talents could be better utilized at a barn raising or disrupting gay weddings somewhere ? Don't look now,but your Alzheimers is starting to show ! The consensus among other commenters is that you're mean & you insult commenters & their intelligence, Shame on you !" Looks like we arent the only ones that think your a knob Doug!!
Neil Thedorff August 22, 2012 at 05:10 PM
"Doug Curlee 4:15 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 "Maybe I jumped the gun on timing.." I see a pattern here.
Neil Thedorff August 22, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Doug Curlee 7:59 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 "really didn't know how to ride yet.." how long has he been riding Doug?
Just me August 22, 2012 at 05:33 PM
I happened to be right on Wintergardens when this happened. This guy was going WAY to fast! Every action has a reaction, and unfortunately this was his consquence by going to fast. After the fact I learned that he was friends with alot of people I know. I do hope he comes out alright, but most of all I hope he takes this as a lesson learned and learns to ride more responsibly. I also saw on facebook that he posted going on a pub crawls down at the beach, maybe he was still intoxicated?
Doug Curlee August 22, 2012 at 06:35 PM
neil.."how long has he been riding?" is NOT the question.. "how long has he been riding THAT BIKE " is the question.. doug
Neil Thedorff August 22, 2012 at 09:56 PM
I never said I knew the facts. You plainly stated that your assumption was based on facts. get your story straight guy. Curlee, that has NOTHING to do with your pathetic comment.
Doug Curlee August 22, 2012 at 10:26 PM
according to his friends, that has everything to do with it..julian was on a bike he didn't know well.. a bike that rode and handled differently that his others..i've spent enough time on bikes to know that's a major factor.. i owe his folks an apology, which i'll deliver tonight.. i owe you nothing at all.. doug
Laura Feil August 23, 2012 at 05:09 AM
Well Doug, I think you should show his "folks" this blog or at least someone should give them this website when Julian is better to see what kind of person they have an aquaintance with? After all, you did post it for the World to see. It was so very special of you to exploit this tragedy with you BS. The World around you has felt the pain of this since it happned. Do you have the balls to tell his "folks." "he asked for it," "don't" you think? Really Doug, keep your apology I don't think it means much. You really cut my heart in two when I read what you wrote. The knife was already there and you turned it over and over again. You don"t owe anyone? What the blank does that mean? People like you have no sympathy or empathy. Were you de-sensatized or have you been an A-hole your whole life?
Laura Feil August 23, 2012 at 05:15 AM
Hey, the blurb about Doug signed Santee Patch? Are you kidding me? They hired him or he volunteers to tear peoples heart out? I went to San Diego 6 News on a link from my Son on my email and this popped up instead of just the article. I am outraged that someone is allowing him to say that Julian asked for it. It totally reminded me about the disgusting fungus that still believe when someone (could me anyone anymore) gets raped -- they asked for it. Seriously, please tell me that Doug is not doing this to evoke conversation over this heartbrake!! Excuse me, I think I am going to throw up!!!!
Lynn K August 23, 2012 at 04:58 PM
Can we just stopped this horrific post and just pray for Julian and his family. That is all we should be doing, not adding more pain to this situation. Please people. please.
Jim September 08, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Dougie, you're right you owe us nothing, wouldn't listen to you faux attempt at an apology anyway. Just the fact that you know them and in your pea brain that makes a difference on how you feel about what happened says it all.
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