Update: Santee Power Plant Critics Planning Protest Rally on Monday

“Numerous poisons will spew from the smokestacks,” say foes of Quail Brush Generation Project.

Updated at 9:35 p.m. March 8, 2012

Opponents of the Quail Brush Generation Project are planning a three-hour rally Monday at Mast Boulevard and West Hills Parkway near the site of the proposed power plant.

“Numerous poisons will spew from the smokestacks, including a projected 50 tons of … carbon monoxide, the silent killer, per year,” said a statement by the Committee to Stop the Santee Power Plant, which has a Facebook page.

The rally—set for 6 to 9 a.m.*—aims to “alert the residents of East County, and those in San Carlos, Tierrasanta and Grantville area of San Diego of the immediate dangers of the proposed power plant.”

The plant would be just north of the westbound entrance to state Route 52 off Mast Boulevard near Mission Trails Regional Park.

Opponents dispute assertions by applicant Cogentrix, a North Carolina company, that the plant would be a “peaker plant” operating at only 43 percent power.

“Cogentrix admits that it would operate at about 58 percent [power] … when it comes on line or shortly thereafter,” the committee says.

Stop the Santee Power Plant is demanding that the California Energy Commission evaluate the project at 100 percent usage.

The committee says it has contacted more than 2,000 affected residents in recent days and has petitions with hundreds of opponents of the plant demanding the CEC consider the plant at 100 percent usage.

According to the CEC, the 100-megawatt project “would support SDG&E's efforts to increase reliance on wind, solar and other renewable energy resources. It would also provide peaking and load-shaping power to the grid, along with several ancillary services intended to assure system reliability within the SDG&E service area.”

For more information or background see the CEC website. For more information about the protest movement, see Stopthesanteepowerplant.

Editor’s note: An earlier version of this story incorrectly said the rally was from 6 a.m. to 9 p.m.

Passion4life March 09, 2012 at 09:55 PM
We're not against power plants, what we're against is the close proximity to people. This power plant will be putting out Carbon Monoxide which can kill you, and at the very least make it more difficult to breathe. This is just a bad location for it.
Kevin George March 09, 2012 at 10:04 PM
You do know that Carbon monoxide is exhausted into the air you breath from every stove and furnace in Santee, and has been since you were born, right?
Kevin George March 09, 2012 at 10:06 PM
I'm just glad you are responding to someone other than doug(sic). I thought it was going to be time for an intervention :)
Doug Curlee March 09, 2012 at 11:04 PM
going to show you never can tell... seems as how kevin, komfort, dennis and i are all on the same side on this one.. there is a lot of hysteria being generated by a lot of people for compartively little reason..much along the lines of the hysteria about smart meters and cell phones..without a hell of a lot in the way of science to back it up.. i seriously doubt the plant can be stopped, and i don't really think it should be.. what the opposition might be able to do is mitigate it somewhat..maybe a different plant design..smaller and fewer exhaust stacks..things on that order.. but i suspect we're going to see a plant there, or very close to there, in the not-too-distant future.. doug
Kevin George March 09, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Even a blind chicken picks up some feed. Sorry doug(sic) I justcan't resist straight line like that, especially delivered by you.
Doug Curlee March 10, 2012 at 12:23 AM
take your best shot, kevin.. we've agreed on things before.. doug
Sandy March 10, 2012 at 12:30 AM
You can read the quantity and type of emissions - including CO - at http://www.energy.ca.gov/sitingcases/quailbrush/documents/applicant/afc/Volume%201/ Section 4.7. The info is from the North Carolina-based company Cogentrix's application to the California Energy Commission. These are numbers based at a 43% run time, although the plant is expected to run at 58% soon enough, according to the Cogentrix report. It will likely run 100% at peak times in the summer. Also, the energy is not for Santee citizens necessarily....but the increased summer pollution will be all ours.
Rhiannon McHugh March 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM
I suppose the people in favor of the plant wouldn't mind one being placed next to their homes, then? Because I sure don't see you guys jumping to volunteer your space. (: In talking to several people who actually live NEXT to power plants (including one gentleman who used to build them) there are more concerns than just the output. Y'know, like where are we getting all this water from? Not to mention that power plants produce a low, constant droning sound that people living near it report as horribly annoying. In the words of the man who used to build them, a power plant is basically just a big jet engine. There's also these fun risks: http://depletedcranium.com/is-natural-gas-really-so-safe/ Considering how close this plant is going to be to some heavily populated areas (including a school), and considering that we do often get wildfires in this area, honestly? That's quite a long list of cited explosions in that article. I don't think I want that close to my home. And considering it's proximity to a landfill and recycling center? That's a lot of flammable fuel. And again? That's right next to homes and a school and a regional park. Really?
Doug Curlee March 10, 2012 at 01:10 AM
as i understand it, this is suppoased to be what's called a "peaker" plant..meaning it's only up and operating when it's needed in an emergency.. did i get that wrong? doug
Things I Learned March 10, 2012 at 01:17 AM
The constant droning is the worst.
Kevin George March 10, 2012 at 01:18 AM
Back at ya doug( sic)
Kevin George March 10, 2012 at 01:26 AM
All I was commenting on was: "This power plant will be putting out Carbon Monoxide which can kill you......you have stated other reasons that a little more valid. But fear of carbon monoxide because " it can kill you" is no more intelligent than saying rain can kill you. Sure if close up a room and start a barbeque you will die, just like if you breathed in a glass of water.
Komfort March 10, 2012 at 02:06 AM
Again, go ask Lutz to put this garbage in his backyard. His "renewable" push led to peaker necessity. " The natural gas-fired power plant will consist of 11 reciprocating Wartsila engines that will provide electricity to San Diego Gas & Electric customers during periods of peak demand or as needed to supplement electricity from renewable sources." http://m.energy.ca.gov/m_newsormedia.php?getfile=2012_releases/2012-01-17_SiteVisit_and_Informational_Hearing_ma.html Good thinking eco-people. I wish you would stick to ruining roads with unused Bike lanes; that does not affect my fridge. Prepare for billowing smokestacks while you sleep because that is when the plant will be running to make up the power deficit man inflicted on solar panels. I think it is called Anthropogenic nighttime.
Komfort March 10, 2012 at 02:56 AM
You at least picked the right corner for a protest. Make sure you let the Waste Management trucks have it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhO8WAItTHA Breathe easy?!? Not in my backyard!!!
Joe Spencer March 10, 2012 at 04:32 AM
Someone mentioned something very interesting in the last Tuesday meeting....that one of the Ryan brothers...either current councilman John or his brother Hal who also was previously on the council....manages the land that Pinnacle Peak is on....and that a deal is already made with the power plant group to use that land as a staging area for a trailer and equipment. Just wondering which brother allegedly is involved...and how that information was confirmed.
Retha Knight March 11, 2012 at 06:52 PM
According to the application for certification, the pp is projected to operate up to 3,800 hrs per year ( or approximately at 43% of the time). The projected EAF (equivalent availability factor), based on the SDG&E PPA, is estimated to exceed 98 percent in the summer months (June-September), and exceed 94 percent in the non-summer months. So Doug, during these times the pp can operate 7 days per week, 24 hr per day. We are talking about eleven 100 ft smokstacks,11 separate, parallel trains of generators, each w/an independent engines.Not to mention the 20,000-gallon capacity aboveground storage tank for the UREA that the will store onsite.
Komfort March 11, 2012 at 08:49 PM
The first paragraph of section 2 clearly states the need for the fossil fuel plant. http://www.energy.ca.gov/sitingcases/quailbrush/documents/applicant/afc/Volume%201/Section%202%200%20Project%20Description.pdf We need renewable energy to get off fossil fuels and we need fossil fuels to sustain renewable energy. ?? Paradoxes never end well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuYbDP2kDfg
Komfort March 11, 2012 at 10:26 PM
I am in absolute awe that my post was deleted. Here is Ray Lutz begging for solar on your Patch site: " The real solution is to make sure there is more generating capacity within the San Diego basin. I have been told that SDG&E was in violation of local generation minimums, allowing the oscillation to begin. This county should be much, much farther along the path to installing solar energy. We have plenty of sun, and it was a hot sunny day on September 8. But Sempra Energy is facing a very stark reality. They can't charge us for the power that we generate ourselves using solar panels. If we put in the solar energy systems and related technology that we should be installing, Sempra might see their revenue drop from $8 billion down to maybe $4 billion. That's a lot of money to be watching fall off the table. So despite all the green talk you will hear out of SDG&E and Sempra Energy, there is no way they want to rush this along. But despite all the foot dragging, this step is critically important for us to accomplish. Installing solar energy systems puts people to work just like the Sunrise Powerlink, and in fact probably quite a few more workers. But the big difference is that we generate our own power, right here, and we stop needing to buy imported energy, the Liquified Natural Gas (LNG)..." http://lamesa.patch.com/blog_posts/sunrise-powerlink-no-help-in-blackout Chickens have come home to roost. The Lutz solar dream makes us more dependant on natural gas.
Kerri Sanders Gray March 12, 2012 at 04:27 PM
Kerri Sanders Gray March 12, 2012 at 04:58 PM
Kevin George March 12, 2012 at 05:42 PM
Before you go insulting everyone: What comment was deleted? I must have missed it.
Kerri Sanders Gray March 12, 2012 at 05:52 PM
I am not trying to insult you Kevin. My first post was deleted and shows up after I post again. I apologize if you were insulted by what I posted.
Kevin George March 12, 2012 at 06:55 PM
Please.......don't insult us any further by thinking we are that obtuse. I would be extremely embarrassed, but that's just me.
Kyla March 12, 2012 at 09:16 PM
That "refresh" feature can be elusive.
Kyla March 12, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Things I Learned March 12, 2012 at 11:48 PM
But sometimes necessary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEqA84R0lYU&NR=1&feature=endscreen
Mike March 13, 2012 at 05:53 AM
SDGE is all BS about green talk???? "SAN DIEGO, Feb. 29, 2012 – San Diego Gas & Electric (SDG&E) was nationally recognized today with the Organizational Leadership Award at the inaugural Climate Leadership Awards in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. The Climate Leadership Awards recognize organizations that go beyond business as usual in the management and reduction of greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions and are presented by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Association of Climate Change Officers (ACCO), the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions (C2ES) (formerly the Pew Center on Global Climate Change), and The Climate Registry (TCR)." Are you talking about the same SDGE that I've been reading about getting national recognition for their efforts?
Mike March 13, 2012 at 05:56 AM
How about just make it invisible? Come on Kerri... did you actually read your post? You've just narrowed down the places to build a plant to almost nothing. Maybe they could build it floating out in the ocean?
Komfort March 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Mike, I am not sure what you are saying. SDGE is doing exactly what is required to become a solar/climate leader. They are installing backup generation to sustain the unreliable green energy sources. They have to, by law.
Motivated Santee Citizen March 13, 2012 at 08:43 PM
See what a dumping ground Santee is for unwanted projects by the rest of the county? This is despite the tireless efforts of the Preserve Wild Santee people over the past nearly 20 years. Imagine what Santee would be like without their efforts? I for one applaud them.


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