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Backers, Critics of Smoking in Parks Seem Agreeable to Separation Option

Lines of communication open wider at West Hills High School forum that attracted 30 people.

Santee residents on both sides of the smoking-in-parks issue appeared to agree Wednesday night on the idea of a smoking area of the park—away from kids and others.

The group seemed to agree that it’s not much different from the recent of the park to keep animals away from people who don’t like them off leash.

“It’s better to be inclusive instead of so divisive,” said one of about 30 attendees at a West Hills High School forum.

The curious and concerned—including parents, kids, athletes and local leaders— to discuss the health, freedom, environmental and other issues surrounding cigarette smoking, specifically considering a .

The was held at and featured guest speakers Dr. Philip Szold of La Mesa Pediatrics, Alan Smith, an epidemiologist from the County of San Diego, and Michael Sawdy of the SDSU School of Public Health.

The forum focused on Santee’s status as that allows cigarette smoking in city parks.

The issue has raised debate about two issues— vs. the outdoors, and the forum gave an opportunity for those two sides to talk face-to-face.

The speakers talked about everything from the toxicity of cigarette butts to the health hazards posed by outdoor secondhand smoke, and the audience was given a chance to ask questions and discuss the issues.

Councilmen and attended the meeting and the final half-hour consisted of an open dialogue about the politics of the issue and what the general attitude of Santee city government might be (it has been cold until now).

Both said they had learned something new at the forum.

McNelis said his parents were serious chain smokers, so he’s no fan of smoking, but he currently falls on the side of those who don’t think another law is required.

“I’m all about promoting people to live a healthier lifestyle, but not dictating,” said McNelis.

“I don’t think it’s government’s job to tell you what you can and can’t do,” he said, echoing the general sentiment of the .

Dale, who said he enjoys a cigar every-now-and-then, was of the opinion that this is an issue with many merits, but has the potential to get out of hand.

“We’re not going to have cops in the park, but like dog park, users will enforce it,” said Dale.

But he worried that the debate could be a slippery slope that would stray into much more difficult issues to decide, like the right to smoke in your own backyard if it bothers a neighbor.

In the end, Dale said he wasn’t rushing the issue, but that the public might expect health issues, including smoking, to be brought up at City Council in the next couple years, especially in conjunction with a push for healthy living that is being developed by San Diego County.

“I hope to bring this issue forward and have that conversation,” said Dale.

One speaker displayed statistics gathered by the County of San Diego Health and Human Services Agency that show that Santee had a significantly higher rate of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) hospitalization and deaths and lung cancer deaths in 2009.

Dale said he wonders how the relatively new has changed the lung disease statistics in Santee, and finished the night off saying “the power plant causes me grand concern,” referring to the proposed gas-powered plant to be built near .

One of the biggest contingents supporting a ban are parents who do not want their children exposed to the .

It was brought to the attention of the group that smoking has been banned within 25 feet of outdoor playgrounds and sand boxes since 2003. The only Santee park to display any signage indicating this law is , but the councilmembers in attendance said City Hall is currently working on putting up signs next to city playgrounds.

One of the most moving comments was made by a local teen runner that has asthma.

“I can smell smoke from about a block away, and it hurts,” he said. “I don’t think people realize what they are doing to those around them.”

Dr. Szold, the pediatrician, said there is no doubt that secondhand smoke will worsen matters for someone with asthma.

Szold said the U.S. smoking rate is 26 percent and California is at 11.9 percent. He said the reason it’s dropped is because of “nickeling and dimming,” a lot of little laws like park smoking bans.

arranged the event, and has been spearheading public interest in a smoking ban at Santee parks since in an annual report released by the American Lung Association in January.

“I was disappointed with the turnout considering all the people who said they supported the cause,” Spencer said. “But at the end of the day I think it was positive that we had several good speakers and the two Councilmembers were able to take a lot in.”

Other organizations in attendance included the American Lung Association, American Heart Association, American Cancer Society and the .

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Fotis Tsimboukakis May 21, 2013 at 03:56 pm
I think the communities, Santee here, should band together and raise that money for schoolRead More supplies,instead of the teachers. I for one would throw in the first $100. I think between the residents and the local businesses we could raise the $10,000 to $15,000 that I am guessing would be needed. In Scripps Ranch, where both my kids attended school, the parents banded together and covered a HALF A MILLION shortfall in no time about 9 years ago during the cuts. And you don't have to have kids in school now to contribute. I don't anymore,BUT GOOD PUBLIC education with the right tools BENEFITS ALL AND THE FUTURE OF AMERICA MOST OF ALL. So I am first.
Steven Bartholow (Editor) May 16, 2013 at 03:53 pm
Thanks for posting this. I also added this to our events list. In the future I suggest posting anRead More announcement and event for maximum exposure- http://santee.patch.com/posts/event/new Good luck with the fundraiser!
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Steven Bartholow (Editor) May 16, 2013 at 10:34 am
Anyone else recommend a Santee family owned business that's outside the city?
Steven Bartholow (Editor) May 20, 2013 at 02:31 pm
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Retha Knight May 17, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Where do you type what you want to view, like "Quail Brush"?
Steven Bartholow (Editor) May 17, 2013 at 10:01 am
No drop down menus, just click the header links for more options. For story categories click newsRead More and look on the left hand column. I know the redesign will take a bit to get used to, but I really think it will be a better site for community engagement, and easier to use. Feel free to post your feedback to the redesign on the boards, I'll check it out and respond, but you might also send your feedback straight to Patch headquarters with this form- http://feedback.aol.com/rs/rs.php?sid=patch Engineers will be furiously tweeking the new site based on your suggestions.
Mike Walker April 23, 2013 at 01:20 pm
this is why the battlefield has changed temporarily from the political arena to the Energy Arena.Read More Co Gen Tricks and the usual suspects are making their big money bet on two inevitable facts that will force the hand of the CPUC and CEC to place a new gas power plant somewhere in the area. 1) the Electric Vehicle Mandate. 2) voltage support (power factor) needed by the industrial wind and solar farms in the desert. There is more to what meets the eye with the aggressive push by the usual suspects to cover our open spaces in the East County with these poorly sited RE projects. More wind and solar farms means more gas power plants. There is only one way to fight the destruction of our open spaces, and that is with roof top solar, conservation, energy efficiency and community owned energy districts. The fisrt thing that needs to be done is the City of Santee exempt residential scale PV installs from needing a building permit. Australia, Germany and the State of Vermont do not require a Building Permit to install PV.
Retha Knight April 23, 2013 at 03:48 am
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just my opinion April 22, 2013 at 01:04 am
Stephen, well said!!!!!