Poll of the Week: Smoking in Santee Parks?

Vote now! Inside you'll find a history of links laying out Santee's smoking issue, and of course, a poll awaiting your input.

Smoking in Santee Parks? Vote Now

The issue of smoking in Santee Parks reached a fever pitch in late January, and now that things have calmed down a bit, it's time to see what the majority of Santee Patch readers think about it.

The conversation about Santee's tobacco policies began last year when the Tobacco Association gave the city an F in their report on tobacco control. Mayor Randy Voepel wrote a piece claiming the F is for Freedom, defending the city's policies, and things went from there.

Things picked up again this year when Santee received another F in the report and local activist Joe Spencer took up the cause focusing on the fact that Santee is the only city in the county that allows smoking in its parks.

If you want to catch up, here are the relevant stories and opinion pieces in Chronological Order:

Association Gives Santee an 'F' in Tobacco Control Policies

Santee Mayor Explains City's 'F for Freedom' Tobacco Grade

Santee's Failing Tobacco Grade: Response to Mayor's Letter

Santee Gets Another 'F' in State of Tobacco Report

Letter to the Council: Smoking in Santee's Parks

Smoking: 'You Stay Out of My Life, and I’ll Stay Out of Yours'

Feel Free To Smoke In Santee Parks... But Get Your Fortune Told Elsewhere

Letter to the Editor: Support for Smoke-Free Parks

This is an issue that seems to sum up Santee's politics, and is even mentioned in a blog analyzing city leadership: Santee Newbie Question One: Who's In-Charge?

For more information, a new Facebook page for Smoke Free Santee has recently been set up.

Steven Bartholow (Editor) February 16, 2012 at 05:31 PM
Having link issues on this page, fixing now
rudy reyes February 17, 2012 at 04:36 PM
simply put stop trying to take away other americans rights!!! Learn to share living space! Consider making a smoking section in parks to make a known line and area for smokers that non-smokers can stay away from. Compromise!!!!
Steven Bartholow (Editor) February 17, 2012 at 04:40 PM
I like that smoking space idea. I'll second the call for compromise!
bme February 17, 2012 at 05:19 PM
Putting up a "smoking section" in a park with a "known line" is analogous to putting a "peeing section" in a pool. The smoke doesn't stay within the "known line". It spreads to others. Some people are allergic to smoke. Even for those who are not allergic to smoke, second-hand smoke is known to have health risks. If you choose to put your own health at risk by choosing to smoke, that is your right. However, it is not your right to impose that right on others by forcing others to breathe in the smoke from your cigarettes.
rudy reyes February 17, 2012 at 05:32 PM
bme seriously open air isnt direct second hand!! If you think its so bad you'll need a haz-mat suit on daily!!! Americans have rights and just taking away rights isnt correct! I'm being generalized on "rights" not directly to "smoking"
bme February 17, 2012 at 05:49 PM
Oh... Okay.. so you have the right to smoke... and that means I don't have the right to breathe smoke-free air? Why does your right to smoke trump my right to breathe smoke-free air? See my point? How fortunate you are that you can be next to someone smoking and not deal with burning eyes, sneezing and headaches. Why is it that people who smoke have zero consideration for those who don't? Just sayin'. Secondly, no need for multiple exclamation points inferring that you're yelling. We can have a civilized conversation and difference of opinions. And thirdly, the article is specifically talking about smoking, so while you may have been "generalizing on rights", the specific topic at hand in this article is smoking in parks. Lastly, yes, secondhand smoke is more dangerous in an enclosed area. However, that doesn't mean that exposure to it in open areas does not affect those around the smoker. Defintion: "Secondhand smoke is both the smoke from the burning end of a cigarette, pipe or cigar and the smoke that is exhaled by smokers. It can stay in the air long after a cigarette has been put out and can be involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers.." http://www.tobaccofreeca.com/smoking-problem/secondhand-smoke/?ef_id=kjpORJ2VKUQAAIJH:20120217174301:s
rudy reyes February 17, 2012 at 06:00 PM
bme quoting from a Tabaccofreeca doesnt help, this org misleads the issue for own agenda advancement. "It can stay in the air long after a cigarette has been put out and can be involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers.." on inside not outside where it disapates. Regarding "next to someone smoking" you have right to just get away! Last i saw the polls were against banning smoking in parks almost 70%! though gone now?? P.S. IN WRITING THIS IS YELLING This is putting a point on the subject!!
rudy reyes February 17, 2012 at 06:02 PM
bme you should be worried about the "quail brush" power plant emmitions causing you direct cancer! this is much more threatening to you then any smokers!
bme February 17, 2012 at 06:11 PM
Well, Rudy... Sometimes a non-smoker does not have the ability to just "get away", and instead of arguing with you further, I will just leave it at that. I can tell you do not have an open mind to try to even attempt to understand the other side of the issue. We can agree to disagree and I'm okay with that. Sad to me how people can't have a simple conversation. And for what it's worth, once again, this article is not speaking about the Quail Power Plant issue. I was attempting to stay on topic.
Jim Shelton February 25, 2012 at 04:16 AM
So what's next? Banning bonfires at the beach? Campfires at the campground? Cooking ribs on the smoker in your backyard? All fireworks? Wood-fired Pizza?


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