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Walmart Super-Store Back From the Dead

The Walmart Super-Store is back in action with plans on the drawing board to expand, but neighbors aren't happy with current noise, which will only get worse.

Read the latest thoughts on the Walmart expansion by Mayor Randy Voepel:

Well, it’s official- the proposed has and is now on its way back to health- which is good news to many, and terrible news to many others.

The city’s Development Department held what’s called a “scoping” meeting at Wednesday night, to show people the drawings and preliminary plans for what the expanded store will look like.

A number of people showed up to take a look, and there was some surprise at what they saw.

The actual footprint of the store building itself wouldn’t change that much- where it will be seen most easily is in the relocation of the garden store to the other side of the building, and the demise of the the tire and lube department altogether.

What will change, if this goes through as proposed, is that vacant lot to the south of the garden shop and the tire and lube center (see photo).

That will become a new, 945-space parking lot to service the expected increase in customers when opens its full service grocery department.

That parking lot is among the many things Bruce and Carol Stacy vow to stop, no matter what it takes.

“It’s not just the noise from the trucks, although that’s bad enough- that parking lot will be operating 24 hours a day, just like the trucks will be. The .” Bruce says.

He would know.

He and Carol live just over the wall from the current loading dock area in the back of the store, at the corner of Willow Grove Avenue and Willow Grove Place.

They, and a good-sized number of their neighbors have been putting up with the noise since the store opened.

I’ve been over in that neighborhood a couple of times, listening- and the racket is nearly unbearable.

It’s going to get worse if the expansion happens, because there will be more trucks coming in to unload all the items needed to operate a full-on grocery store- a store that will be open 24/7.

The loading docks are set to be moved to another location along the west, or back, side of the store, which will make the noise even worse for the people along Willow Grove Place.

For truck access to the loading docks, the roadway from Mission Gorge Road that runs along the east side of will .

and of the came to the scoping meeting to take a look at the plans, and both pronounced themselves happy with the concept.

I asked Savage about possible opposition to the plans, but Savage wasn’t worried.

“It will happen... I wouldn’t worry too much," he said.

That may or may not be the case.

I know has often expressed frustration at the process, and the possibility of the expansion- he told me that again just last Monday.

“We should never have built that store where we did,” Dale said.

That’s true- a lot of trouble would have been saved if the back of the store, and the noisy loading docks, had been built along the line of the San Diego River, but hindsight is always 20-20, isn’t it?

Associate City Planner Angela Reeder is the person in charge of the process now begun.

“We’ll probably draft environmental impact report ready after the first of the year," she said. "It’ll then go through the public review process for 45 days, as the law calls for. After that, we’ll have to see what happens.”

Yes, we will- and right now, no one is predicting what will happen.

Tom Yarnall November 30, 2011 at 05:59 AM
deja vu all over again. I don't know how I ended up on this thread, but as I was reading the comments I said " I've read that somewhere before" and then remembered the Wal-Mart expansion for the Poway store. It was thoroughly debated in the Poway Patch. With over 100 posts about every argument was presented, You Santee folks could probably speed up your process by reviewing these comments and when you see something you like just copy and paste it into your Patch. There are, also plenty of disparaging remarks to choose from. Go to Poway Patch and search for Wal-Mart expansion. The expansion was approved after a two year environmental impact study.
Kathy November 30, 2011 at 06:23 AM
Thanks Tom, I hope we are successful at stopping this huge mistake in Santee.
Alyssa Burley November 30, 2011 at 04:58 PM
Last year I wrote a paper on Walmart in India. Here is an excerpt that applies to U.S. Superstores: At an average of 185,000 square feet, the Walmart Supercenter is 77,000 square feet larger than Walmart Discount Stores (Walmart, n.d. c). The additional square footage includes a full grocery department with bakery goods, meats, dairy, deli counter, frozen and packaged foods. This may sound like a really great way to shop. The Supercenter creates a one-stop-shopping experience for the consumer. However, in an article written by Georgeanne M. Artz and Kenneth E. Stone (2006) they address the negative economic effects associated with Walmart Supercenters on local grocery stores in both rural and metropolitan counties in Mississippi: "We find that Wal-Mart’s entry into nonmetropolitan markets reduces growth of grocery store sales by nearly 17 percentage points within two years of entry. In metropolitan counties, the proportionate reduction in sales growth is much smaller, 4 percentage points within one year of Supercenter entry, but the associated dollar amount of sales captured by the Supercenter is nearly twice as large. Some of the decline may be attributable to lower prices induced by Wal-Mart competition, but the magnitude of the effects suggests that, particularly in more rural areas, the new store captures a significant amount of business from existing grocery retailers in the host county" (2006). http://nuglobalstudies.wordpress.com/global-studies/gls_499/
Ellen McGuire November 30, 2011 at 10:16 PM
Doug...I don't know why you felt the need to attack me! If you actually read the comment thread you would have seen the comment by someone who signed in as "just my opinion" made a remark about my comment that a NEW Supercenter would be a good thing,but a half baked job like the expansion proposed was not! I know what I am talking about,too! I shopped in a similar store in Tempe,AZ ,when we lived there! When I stated that due to lack of space,these type of conversions DO NOT carry a full line of merchandise that a regular WalMart (supercenter or not) carries,I was told I should be grateful to be able to buy toilet paper at all,because people in third world countries didn't have any! Not exactly relevent to the story or my comment! It had NOTHING to do with stores getting the best deal . The ONLY thing it had to do with economics was supply & demand! If the store doesn't carry what customers demand...they will go elsewhere! Perhaps you should take your own advice about those business classes,and while you are there,see if you can get a class that will teach you how to follow a comment thread!
Robert C. Woodard February 18, 2014 at 05:33 PM
If you bought a house behind a business, you should have know there would be noise. Plan better the next time you purchase a house. Those houses were cheaper for a reason. I am pushing for this store expansion and will try and do all I can to help push it through.

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